I have to identify it!!!!
Dear Rasika,
The wonderful thing about Ragas in the Indian Classical music system is that they are unique, and each one of them have something that is typically only associated with them, that which is irreplaceable. It is easy to fool an average listener in a little game of "Identify the raga" in a post-dinner Carnatic music party, and chuckle as he identifies a Sri raga as a Madhyamavati or a Pharas as a Mayamalavagowla..but how many of us self-confessed aficionados of this great system really have a fool-proof method of unambiguously identifying, each time, every time, the raga correctly? I doubt very many of us do, and this includes the smug critic or the know-it-all mama-mami duo next door.
Lets face it - there are many factors that go into identifying a raga - the musical intelligence of the person who is playing or singing in the specimen recording, the level of sophistication of the music system, the extent of deafness of the listener or the lack of it, peer pressure, the presence of an intrusive well-meaning relative who eggs you on to make the wrong choice, and the like. If any of these factors are compromised, the result will be incorrect in most cases. Let's take the case of an innocent music lover, goaded into one of these matches, misidentifying a Mohanakalyani as a Bilahari. The poor devil didn't get the chance to tune into the prati-madhyama, or worse still the delicate fibrils of his inner ear couldn't sense the prati-madhyama frequency..or maybe it was the yelp of that dog? or the noisy two year old?
Anyway, let not be too harsh on ourselves if we fail to identify a raga correctly. It will surprise you, the number of frustrated rasikas who mail me saying they are unable to identify ragas correctly even after twenty thirty odd years of listening (and who did you listen to that long, that has made you so despondent my friend, I am often tempted to ask..). There's only one thing I tell them - it doesn't matter!!!
Do you care what ingredients in what proportion go into that favourite chutney of yours your mum used to make all those years ago? You just sat back, enjoyed it, and licked your fingers didn't you?
Do the same with music, my loved ones...do not try to analyse, music is like love, too much analysis kills it.
I am there to help with the analysis bit, so don't worry your pretty little heads with it.
Go on out there, listen to more great stuff, enjoy the strains that drift through the air, and give those weary grey cells a rest, RELAX.
Of course, go on and have some fun with the parlour tricks, too much raga never killed anyone..
-Love
CLM
The wonderful thing about Ragas in the Indian Classical music system is that they are unique, and each one of them have something that is typically only associated with them, that which is irreplaceable. It is easy to fool an average listener in a little game of "Identify the raga" in a post-dinner Carnatic music party, and chuckle as he identifies a Sri raga as a Madhyamavati or a Pharas as a Mayamalavagowla..but how many of us self-confessed aficionados of this great system really have a fool-proof method of unambiguously identifying, each time, every time, the raga correctly? I doubt very many of us do, and this includes the smug critic or the know-it-all mama-mami duo next door.
Lets face it - there are many factors that go into identifying a raga - the musical intelligence of the person who is playing or singing in the specimen recording, the level of sophistication of the music system, the extent of deafness of the listener or the lack of it, peer pressure, the presence of an intrusive well-meaning relative who eggs you on to make the wrong choice, and the like. If any of these factors are compromised, the result will be incorrect in most cases. Let's take the case of an innocent music lover, goaded into one of these matches, misidentifying a Mohanakalyani as a Bilahari. The poor devil didn't get the chance to tune into the prati-madhyama, or worse still the delicate fibrils of his inner ear couldn't sense the prati-madhyama frequency..or maybe it was the yelp of that dog? or the noisy two year old?
Anyway, let not be too harsh on ourselves if we fail to identify a raga correctly. It will surprise you, the number of frustrated rasikas who mail me saying they are unable to identify ragas correctly even after twenty thirty odd years of listening (and who did you listen to that long, that has made you so despondent my friend, I am often tempted to ask..). There's only one thing I tell them - it doesn't matter!!!
Do you care what ingredients in what proportion go into that favourite chutney of yours your mum used to make all those years ago? You just sat back, enjoyed it, and licked your fingers didn't you?
Do the same with music, my loved ones...do not try to analyse, music is like love, too much analysis kills it.
I am there to help with the analysis bit, so don't worry your pretty little heads with it.
Go on out there, listen to more great stuff, enjoy the strains that drift through the air, and give those weary grey cells a rest, RELAX.
Of course, go on and have some fun with the parlour tricks, too much raga never killed anyone..
-Love
CLM
VERY INTERESTING
ReplyDeleteAnanda Ram.K,Geethanjali,Parippu.P.O,Kottayam-14
anandangeethanjali@gmail.com
I saw every video clip of your 'isai payanam ' and have greatly benefited from the experience. thanks a lot.
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ReplyDeleteI have been into music, rather i should say, music has been into me ever since i was child. Thanks to my mom who penetrated music, beauty of it and ragas in me.
Well, we are a group of music lovers who love discussing the ragas, karnatik compositions & of course, film music too.
I searched all over your blog, but I could not find ragam "BEHAG". Though there are popular karnatik compositions, I wanted to know tamil film songs in this raga.
Just to be sure, is it in Behag........
"Unnai ethanai murai paarthalum salippathillai" from tamil movie "Neeya"
Well said..
ReplyDeleteHi Charu, we are looking for more posts from you. Dont stop blogging. You are doing a good job there.
ReplyDeleteVery Interesting blog. Friends, We should discuss on ragas, Sarvam geethamayam...
ReplyDeleteHi Charulatha,
ReplyDeleteCould you please tell the raga of ORU DEIVAM THANTHA POOVE from kannathil mutham ittal. I am guessing Pallavi to be Raga Bahar and anupallavi not able to guess. Some sort of sruthi bedham is done?
Also the song Kathirunnu by Shreya Ghoshal in Ennu Ninte Moideen sounds very similar with a flavour of PATDEEP raga and KAAPI raga.
Please provide your valuable feedback.
Thanks
Wow ... Love your comparison of chutney with music composition.
ReplyDeleteBut I am still amazed how different 2 songs of same raga can sound like. It has been a pleasure listening to your videos about ragas in film music. Great Stuff. Divine.
Unnai ethanai muriai song resembles hindi song which is in Behag - Tere Sur Aur Mere Geet
ReplyDeleteNice post. Please share anything on your methodology of identifying ragas or atleast the "signatures" of ragas for novice carnatic rasikas. Thankyou
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